Etymology corner - the Valburga cricket ground

Golcar CC · Bezalgo

Etymology corner - the Valburga cricket ground

El Presidente · Disco Brad

Golcar CC wrote:

Interestingly the burg in Valburga is nothing to do with burg/borough etc meaning a town but is taken from the name: (St) Walburga (also spelt Valburger, Valpurga, Waltpurge, etc.), a female English missionary (born in south-west England c. 710) to central Europe ...

Now the place plays host English missionary activities of the cricket variety.

As for what Smlednik means, I've not the faintest idea.

Is there anything Wikipedia doesn't know?

The fact that it was an English missionary is very interesting indeed. Now, see if you can fill us in on the etymology of Markomannenstrasse? (the ground in Vienna that does sound a bit as though it was named after our own Mark Oman)

-- Edited by El Presidente at 13:06, 2007-07-12

Luxury · Heading for toffee

But might not the burg in Walburga share the same etymology as burg/bourg/borough etc.?

I'm told by the Internet that she was the patron saint of Zutphen, which, as you know, is twinned with Shrewsbury. How's about that then?

brazo de natillas · King of the divan

Golcar CC wrote:
is taken from the name: (St) Walburga (also spelt Valburger, Valpurga, Waltpurge, etc.), a female English missionary (born in south-west England c. 710) to central Europe ..

Now, there's a thing.
On Markomannenstrasse, it's something to do with the Marcomanni, though quite why on that road...
Perhaps it's a barbarian-themed estate. Next time, check for a Vandalenallee, a Visigotenenweg and a Australierenplatz.

Club Dogsbody · Veteran Member

Golcar CC wrote:

As for what Smlednik means, I've not the faintest idea.

The origins of Smlednik as a name are German, Flednigg or alternatively Flednic:

http://www.gorski-teki.info/sezona05/drz_prvenstva05.htm

Valvasor and others refer to grad Smlednik as Flednigg, while Wiki points out that the first owner was one Wdalricus de Fledinich:

http://www.slosi.info/01gradovi/02podrobnejse/gorenjska/s-2/smlednik1.php

http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grad_Smlednik

-- Edited by Club Dogsbody at 08:31, 2007-07-13

Golcar CC · Bezalgo

Good bit of historical detective work there Bod

Golcar CC · Bezalgo

Luxury wrote:

But might not the burg in Walburga share the same etymology as burg/bourg/borough etc.?

I'm told by the Internet that she was the patron saint of Zutphen, which, as you know, is twinned with Shrewsbury. How's about that then?

Yes it's certainly possible that her name may derive from a borough or burgh - place names as given names have always been around - perhaps on the fringes, tho a venerable part of US culture. One of the pleasures of watching the credits of US films rolling by on TV was looking at the amazing variety of names: as a young lad I was astonished to think that some could be called Bradford.

Mention should be made of Walburga's two brothers Sts. Winnibald and Willibald (all three the children of St Richard an Anglo-Saxon under-king), and the fact she is claimed to be England's first female author (she wrote the life of Willibald and something about the angst of being a teenage nun in modern 8th century Europe).

As for Shrewsbury ... it always comes back to Shrewsbury and/or Brother Caedfell

Golcar CC · Bezalgo

brazo de natillas wrote:

Golcar CC wrote:
is taken from the name: (St) Walburga (also spelt Valburger, Valpurga, Waltpurge, etc.), a female English missionary (born in south-west England c. 710) to central Europe ..

Now, there's a thing.
On Markomannenstrasse, it's something to do with the Marcomanni, though quite why on that road...
Perhaps it's a barbarian-themed estate. Next time, check for a Vandalenallee, a Visigotenenweg and a Australierenplatz.

Good to see you're doing some research there Brazo. The tribe were renowned for their stout defence in area of modern Vienna, but only rarely would they come out and attack ...

El Treasurorio · Senior Member

Could they have been fighting for their averages? Surely they wouldn't do that in case they'd jeapordise others?

Hrumpf, those Markomanni...

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Club Dogsbody · Veteran Member

Golcar CC wrote:

Good bit of historical detective work there Bod

Thanks mate. Further investigation has revealed another variant, 'Flendnic', and a reference to Smlednik supposedly meaning "badly overgrown forest":

http://www2.arnes.si/~ptomse/imenakr.htm

Meanwhile, in addition to the good historical stuff about St Winifred's School Choir posted by our esteemed Golcar, it should also be pointed out that Valburga is a girl's name meaning "she who defends on the battlefield":

http://www.babynamescountry.com/meanings/Valburga.html

Now, who is going to spot the link between that and what El Tres was just saying??

-- Edited by Club Dogsbody at 14:27, 2007-07-13

-- Edited by Club Dogsbody at 14:32, 2007-07-13